Uncle Marv’s IT Business Podcast: Practical Business Advice for MSPs and IT Professionals
Uncle Marv’s IT Business Podcast: Practical Business Advice…
Running a managed service provider (MSP) or IT services business takes more than technical expertise. You need to win customers, grow revenue, protect profitability, manage vendors, deliver great service, and keep up with a changing IT industry. That’s where Uncle Marv comes in.

Hosted by longtime IT business owner Marvin Bee, aka Uncle Marv, the IT Business Podcast delivers practical business advice, real-world lessons, candid conversations, and industry insights to help MSP owners, IT service providers, IT consultants, system administrators, and technology professionals run their businesses better, smarter, and faster.

Topics include MSP business growth, pricing and profitability, sales and marketing, managed services operations, cybersecurity, compliance, Microsoft 365, cloud services, automation, service desk efficiency, vendor management, technology stack decisions, and customer relationships.

Hear from experienced MSP owners, IT business leaders, industry experts, and technology vendors about what works, what doesn’t, and what it takes to build a stronger IT business. Get an honest look at industry trends, vendor claims, emerging technologies, and the decisions that affect your customers, your team, and your bottom line.

Whether you’re starting an MSP, growing an established IT services company, managing client networks, or looking for better tools and smarter ways to work, Uncle Marv brings the conversation back to what matters: practical knowledge you can put to work.

Run your business better, smarter, and faster.
Sept. 10, 2026

Profitable Small MSP Growth with Tom Bull (EP 1079)

Profitable Small MSP Growth with Tom Bull (EP 1079)
Uncle Marv’s IT Business Podcast: Practical Business Advice for MSPs and IT Professionals
Profitable Small MSP Growth with Tom Bull (EP 1079)

Tom Bull of Two River Computer joins me for a practical conversation about building an MSP around trust, community, and the work clients actually need. Tom shares how his business grew from computer repair and consulting into managed IT, residential technology, Wi-Fi, smart-home projects, and cybersecurity, all while serving smaller businesses that larger MSPs often overlook. We talk about referral relationships, local visibility, Google reviews, and why listening to the customer can matter more than following every piece of conventional channel advice.

We also get into the realities of controlled growth and modern security. Tom explains why he paused new-client onboarding when his team hit capacity, how he thinks about profit over revenue, and why he is careful about taking on work he cannot support well. We cover AI use policies, Microsoft 365 protection, SentinelOne Vigilance, Petra, ThreatLocker, Ubiquiti, SonicWall, backups, identity security, and the layered approach MSPs need to keep clients protected without overcomplicating the stack.

=== Chapters

  • 01:52 Meet Tom Bull of Two River Computer
  • 04:22 Tom Bull’s Tech Career and MSP Origin Story
  • 10:01 Building a Community-Driven Local IT Business
  • 13:17 Growing an MSP by Giving Clients What They Want
  • 17:42 Small-Business MSP Niches, Pricing, and Referral Partnerships
  • 22:15 AI Policies, Shadow AI, and MSP Liability Concerns
  • 30:04 Building a Layered Security Stack With SentinelOne and Petra
  • 32:46 ThreatLocker, AutoElevate, and Application Control
  • 38:38 TechCon Unplugged, 1Stream, and TruGrid Sponsor Message
  • 41:09 Working on the Business and Finding MSP Profitability
  • 49:11 Local SEO, Google Reviews, and Profitable Hardware Sales
  • 53:10 Ubiquiti, Managed Switches, and Network Visibility
  • 56:49 SonicWall vs. Ubiquiti Gateway Security
  • 01:08:53 Developing Future Leaders at Two River Computer

=== Guest: Tom Bull, Two River Computer

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IT veteran with 40 years in the industry from manufacturing to sales/service and most recently owner of Two River Computer in NJ, a hybrid break-fix and MSP company.

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