Uncle Marv's IT Business Podcast (Products, stories, and tips for the MSP and IT Professional)
Uncle Marv's IT Business Podcast (Products, stories, and ti…
The IT Business Podcast is a show for MSPs (Managed Service Providers) and IT Professionals providing business network support and managed services. Each episode delivers products, stories, and tips that help the MSP and IT Pro run the business better, smarter, and faster, covering everything from pricing and packaging to operations, tools, and service delivery. You’ll hear candid conversations with working MSP owners, system admins, vendors, and industry leaders who share what’s actually working in the field, including hard lessons, success stories, and the occasional “what not to do.” Topics regularly include managed services best practices, cybersecurity and compliance, Microsoft 365 and cloud, automation and documentation, vendor selection and stack building, plus the day-to-day realities of running a modern IT business. Hosted by longtime IT business owner and podcaster Marvin “Uncle Marv” Bee, the show blends real talk, practical advice, and a lighthearted tone so the MSP and IT Pro behind the network can learn, laugh, and get better every week.
Sept. 9, 2026

Profitable Small MSP Growth with Tom Bull (EP 1079)

Profitable Small MSP Growth with Tom Bull (EP 1079)
Uncle Marv's IT Business Podcast (Products, stories, and tips for the MSP and IT Professional)
Profitable Small MSP Growth with Tom Bull (EP 1079)

Tom Bull of Two River Computer joins me for a practical conversation about building an MSP around trust, community, and the work clients actually need. Tom shares how his business grew from computer repair and consulting into managed IT, residential technology, Wi-Fi, smart-home projects, and cybersecurity, all while serving smaller businesses that larger MSPs often overlook. We talk about referral relationships, local visibility, Google reviews, and why listening to the customer can matter more than following every piece of conventional channel advice.

We also get into the realities of controlled growth and modern security. Tom explains why he paused new-client onboarding when his team hit capacity, how he thinks about profit over revenue, and why he is careful about taking on work he cannot support well. We cover AI use policies, Microsoft 365 protection, SentinelOne Vigilance, Petra, ThreatLocker, Ubiquiti, SonicWall, backups, identity security, and the layered approach MSPs need to keep clients protected without overcomplicating the stack.

=== Chapters

  • 01:52 Meet Tom Bull of Two River Computer
  • 04:22 Tom Bull’s Tech Career and MSP Origin Story
  • 10:01 Building a Community-Driven Local IT Business
  • 13:17 Growing an MSP by Giving Clients What They Want
  • 17:42 Small-Business MSP Niches, Pricing, and Referral Partnerships
  • 22:15 AI Policies, Shadow AI, and MSP Liability Concerns
  • 30:04 Building a Layered Security Stack With SentinelOne and Petra
  • 32:46 ThreatLocker, AutoElevate, and Application Control
  • 38:38 TechCon Unplugged, 1Stream, and TruGrid Sponsor Message
  • 41:09 Working on the Business and Finding MSP Profitability
  • 49:11 Local SEO, Google Reviews, and Profitable Hardware Sales
  • 53:10 Ubiquiti, Managed Switches, and Network Visibility
  • 56:49 SonicWall vs. Ubiquiti Gateway Security
  • 01:08:53 Developing Future Leaders at Two River Computer

=== Guest: Tom Bull, Two River Computer

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IT veteran with 40 years in the industry from manufacturing to sales/service and most recently owner of Two River Computer in NJ, a hybrid break-fix and MSP company.

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