Podnutz Pro Reunion And Legacy (EP 1000)

[2:05] Hello, everyone, and welcome to not just another episode of the IT Business Podcast. This is episode 1000. And welcome. Thank you very much. And if you have been here since 2016 watching the show, thank you for hanging in there. If you're new to the show, well, thank you for joining as well. Uh this is going to be one of those shows where I’m going to ask you to you know cozy up to something grab yourself a adult drink a coffee a beverage something uh to sit back and hang out with us for a while uh i do want to say that when we bought hot nuts pro back um i mean there kind of wasn't really a plan there certainly wasn't a plan for getting to episode 1000 we just thought we would sit around share some stories share some tips and be part of the community and that has been what this is we've talked about everything you know going back to the computer repair days RMM cyber security business growth all of those things and it has been a journey to say the least.

[3:15] Most of you know the show is it's not about perfection it's not it's not a polished show It's not something that, you know, is going to end up on TV someday, but it is a show where, as I've talked to people over the years, the one thing that they tell me is that they enjoy learning. They enjoy hearing from other business owners and other vendors in the channel. And that's what we're going to keep doing as long as you guys will have me. I want to acknowledge some people already popping in. Eric Anthony joining us from All Things MSP. Thank you very much, sir. and uh.

[3:52] What? I wish I could be in the comments for the whole show. Oh, going to Kaseya Connect. Yep. I will not be there.

[4:00] Tom Wyatt, hello, hello. And Jeremy Seager, thank you, sir, for acknowledging 1,000. Now, let's go ahead and get started with the reunion that I have been talking about, the people that helped me bring back the show in 2016. I'm talking about Mr. Matt Rainey and Martin Obando. Guys welcome to the it business podcast thank you thanks it feels like uh it feels like yesterday no it doesn't not for me either.

[4:36] Apparently i don't get much sleep these days uh so for those that i look pretty good still for being on such a long time those yeah i noticed a lot more gray than those photos had oh man i was young yeah we all were young, it's interesting hair in some of those photos now, so for those that don't know the original pod nuts pro was started by you matt Rainey along with Lalo well actually the first episodes were Steve Cherubino and then Lalo Nunez came in uh and you guys did about 80 episodes and then in 2016 we brought it back mainly because you still wanted to do the show but nobody would run the controls and so i said I’ll run the controls and then we needed a third uh martin Obando we did the m&m&m show for quite some time and uh that was how pondettes pro came back until you guys bailed on me well that's probably not the right way to say that pretty close pretty close yeah it hurts but it's true uh so let me start by asking you guys uh how's life men and what are you doing now.

[5:53] Go ahead, man. Okay. So I'm actually doing the same thing now as I was doing last time we talked. Still with the company. Still doing the same job. Working. Not really much has changed at all for me for work. Are you still doing the job for your techs? I mean, that's always part of the job.

[6:20] So, I do have to help them as much as they need. That's just to get it done. But, yeah, that's the job. All right. We're going good. We're still going good. All right. And for those that don't know, we'll just say that you're in the great state of Louisiana.

[6:37] Yeah, Louisiana. Are you not claiming the state anymore? No i mean i just don't know if i put any that adjective on it okay, and mark no bando uh what do they call over there i just the left coast the wrong coast, the pacific northwest i don't know what is it okay yeah no still uh yeah still same room just different stuff behind me it's uh it's a little more purple now it's the last time i uh my current daughter-in-law was living in this room for a while, and so she painted it purple. And then when I moved back into the room, my wife said, do you want to paint it? And I said, no, it's fine. So it's purple, and it's got a calming effect on me. Is it purple or lilac? No, I left.

[7:31] Yes, it's probably light. I was looking up. It is sunny today. The sun is raining for my eyes. I don't know what to do with that thing outside. Yeah. I left Obando Computing in May of 2020. So it was just time. It was about 10 years by that time. And it had nothing to do with COVID, even though it was right on the beginning of COVID. And so I spent about four months just camping and hanging out and doing nothing and then ended up at another MSP local here. And I've been there for now for almost five years. Nice. So doing account management. So, yeah. So what happened in May? I know that May was the year of our COVID. So what happened? You were doing like a bunch of school district stuff. Right.

[8:22] I was, I was. I think it just Obando Computing, it was time for Obando Computing to move on. I was, I was burned out, technically, I guess that's the best way to do it after 10 years. And I had some support, but it wasn't the support that was needed. And so I was just going through a lot of turnover. And I think at that time, my wife said, it's time. You know uh you you've done it you've done a good job with it you've posted along but there was some uh you know it was just it was time to it was time to move on i think for and it was a good thing for our family uh for my wife at the time and for us so we're strong and everything's good we're you know nothing happened out of the outside of that just uh moved on to another location i like the way you phrased it was it was good for the wife yeah yeah well yeah and now I’m not having to do billing and invoicing and all the stuff that comes with owning a small business anymore. I don't handle any of that stuff, but you know, you can't tell, you can't take the person out. And so I walked into this next job saying, I'd like to have a better work-life balance. And I go to work at 5am and I get off at 5pm. So I think the work-life balance there kind of missed, I missed out on that. But, uh, so why do you go to work at 5am?

[9:34] Um, so my biggest customer that I support is a, is, uh, it's an automation company. So they handle a lot of robots a lot of packaging a lot of you know all that kind of stuff and it's is it amazon uh it is not amazon so it's uh another company but we handle we have customers from Boston new York you know Georgia Chicago you know so i cover we've got we've got about 500 people all across the united states and I’m their account manager and so i have a team of people that work with me, but, but they have other things to do as well. So, um, you know, any new onboarding people I'm, I'm there helping out with. So like tomorrow, for example, there's a new person starting. I get to, I'm going to be at work at 5am, uh, because they're starting from the East coast. Wow. So I keep, I definitely keep, I definitely keep busy for sure.

[10:26] That's a no-go for me, 5 a.m. Well, yeah, I'm getting used to it now. Matt, when we were talking last, you didn't like to even drive out of your neighborhood to go to work. Remember that? For Martin. No, you, Rainey. You, Rainey. I still don't. I still don't. I mean, I still work from home 99% of the time. I go to the office usually for about four hours every other week okay nice i do not i just go to the office i have about a 45 minute 40 minute drive to work in the morning so oh well i got a i got a six minute drive right well there are days when i do work my home but i feel like I’m way more efficient at work there's a lot of the there's a lot of the um cube talk that goes on and you know trying to manage things. Because that's one of my companies that I manage. I manage four other ones local here to the Pacific Northwest. And so I have to make sure that I keep up with all of them as well. So while my other customers will maybe dip off about 2 o'clock or so like that, then the other customers kick in it. So they definitely keep me busy. I text her on the road as well. So if I'm at the office, they're on the road. I still don't see them just because I'm at the office. Yeah.

[11:48] Yeah there's not much six minute commute it's horrible six minutes 60 seconds is too much from i got through two stop signs and a light now they added a light, so we have a roundabout now so between my house and the office so still no stop sign one intersection at the one intersection uh you had to go through yes, um all right guys so listen uh surprise number one is here and let me just bring this person to the stage there he is one of the originals of pot nuts pro Lalo Nunez is in the house how's everybody doing good how you been man it is good to see your beautiful faces it's awesome.

[12:39] For those that don't know well go ahead thank you so sorry matt i say you're looking good too you've been doing well yeah man uh a lot have changed since a pod nuts pro now a father of two beautiful girls a husband and i mean it's um life is different but yeah i mean blessed clearly life is great so you know pod nuts was great uh it really was a key piece of uh my career as far as that whole chapter and what you guys are doing. It's just awesome. Congratulations. That's awesome. Thank you. So for those that don't know, Lalo was the second host of Podnutz Pro. Matt was always the talent. He was.

[13:30] And you guys ran that show for, what was it, two years? That you did it over? About. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yep. About two years. And me and Matt always had awesome conversations. At the time, I think it was Windows Server 2003. Was that what the operating system back then? Something like that? Wow. Yep.

[13:55] Is that when I won the Raspberry Pi? Was that what brought me on? There was something about what would you do with the Raspberry Pi, and did you ask for submissions? And I remember submitting something about it, that I never did anything with it, but I did get the Raspberry Pi. I didn't know that. That's always something that we did. No? All right. No. That was more like Android app back then. No. No? No. No.

[14:25] Those pod nuts days were something so yeah so pod nuts pro was the sister program to pod nuts the computer repair show geeksters run by our friend martin Obando here was a part of that show for a while and then there were some other shows but uh yeah i think the problem is all those shows ran together so it was hard to know which one was which except for android app addicts I was kind of always, you know, the flagship, you know, separate from all the rest.

[14:57] And that was, I mean, if you think about it, Podnutz back in the day was the pioneer of what you see now, right? So, you know, we were doing different shows on different topics. And now, you know, that's what, you know, what folks are attempting to do now. So, you know, we were, I think, years before, you know, what you see now. Yeah.

[15:22] Matt, I don't think I asked you properly the last time we did this, which the last time we got together like this was episode 300 of Podnutz Pro. And that was 700 episodes ago. It's pretty amazing there. But I wanted to get around to asking you the original talking point with starting up Podnutz Pro separate from Podnutz. Do you remember that? What made you decide to do that? Yes. So a lot of the stuff on Podnutz was geared toward desktop administration. It was nothing with the server side networking. And I tried to find something that did that, that explained people who were doing desktop administration, how to convert that and what skills and what you need to know for the server side. And I couldn't find anything. And a lot of stuff that I was hearing, to be honest, was just wrong because it was coming from the desktop side, not understanding the server side. So I was just trying to have something for the beginner to start with the level, the basics level and work that up.

[16:42] Yep. Basics of Active Directory, DNS. Right. All of those things. Just things that I was at the time was seeing done incorrectly that I could go behind somebody and take over their server, quote, and I could tell that the person had no idea what they were doing. That they set it up like they were only thinking about desktops, maybe how to join two desktops to talk to each other. But that's not servers, not Active Directory. None of them were dealing with server OSs. So that was the starting point for that.

[17:20] And Lalo, if I remember, were you working in business at the time? I tried to start my own computer repair business, but I was unsuccessful. And I'll tell you why, because I had a full-time job with the government, and I didn't want to let that go. So, you know, looking back, if I would have just let that go and kind of went with both feet in, like the outcome may, may, may have been different. But yeah, but I give it a shot. And then I focus my career on work and dealing with networks and certifications. So and that's where my path took me. So, but yeah, and that was what Matt was saying. When you're a desktop technician compared to a network technician or engineer or admin, like the mindset is just different. The troubleshooting aspect, the planning, the deployment, you're no longer thinking about this PC I'm working on. You're thinking, you know, can this support 500, 1,000 users and licensing? I mean, you know, God knows you need a whole certification track to understand licensing for many of these products. But, yeah. And Obando, we just kind of drug you in, didn't we? Maybe I begged. I don't know.

[18:40] But yeah, I just jumped on. I think it was, and I just enjoyed it. I really enjoyed being able to bridge the gap between home and then maybe doing a little home network. And then what does that look like doing like DHCP and DNS, even on your local, you know, Linksys WRT 54G router, right? What does that look like? And then what does it look like to take that and expand that and then think differently and put that into a place inside of a network for, you know, 10, 20, 30 people, like a small, you know, small businesses. And it was just, it was a good, fun time and passionate time of being able to do that. And Lala, you touched on it. Now everything is Azure and pod-based and it's just a whole, it's, you know, we have people that I work with now who are just taking their network plus and their A plus and they're coming back. And I'm like, you know, back in my day, we used to flip dip switches for comports. And they're like, what? I'm like, what? They're like, we don't even know what that is. And I'm like, okay, well, here we go. You know? You're exactly right.

[19:43] So I don't know if things are easier or it was more simpler back then. It's like working on older cars, right? This is a car ride. This is what it does. Now you're just like, I don't know. It's got a computer in it. I mean, I definitely think I would. It's more difficult now. Like the resources are out there, right? So you have courses, you have YouTube, you have a lot more podcasts than we had when we started. But now, as you said, there's the cloud, and then there's a big emphasis on security. And like Matt said, you can walk into an environment, and you can spot key things and say, okay, this was deployed incorrectly. And then, you know, of course, I see what a lot of folks have a bad taste with technology, like because the implementation was bad. You know, I can't stand Microsoft Teams or I can't stand this or whatever the case may be. When the issue was there was no deployment, there was no training for the users. And, you know, you can't have someone just walking in on Monday morning. Here's a new login to these applications. Have a good day. I mean, you're going to frustrate the people, you know, because folks are creatures of habit. And I mean, you all have seen it. I've seen someone work for Microsoft Word and they're clicking 12 different keystrokes. Let me show you a shortcut. You show them a shortcut. That's Monday morning, the same 12 keystrokes in all these creatures of habit.

[21:07] As far as desktop technicians go now, is that even a thing, do technicians even troubleshoot desktops anymore? Do they just call the manufacturer, open a case, let them come fix it?

[21:20] For hardware, surely, yeah. And then if it's broken and not under warranty, here's a code for a new one. Isn't that what they do now? Back then when we built the computers, we had to troubleshoot it and figure out what the problem was and change the components. And I think a lot of newer people really don't know how to do that in desktops. I just had an office manager. So they just put in an order for two new laptops that I got to configure and ship out to remote users. And I asked them something because they have a, I call them a junior. You guys probably haven't heard me say this. So I've got customers that I co-manage and they have a desktop like technician on staff that kind of handles the little stuff. I call them juniors, whether they're TJ for a tech junior, DJ for desktop junior. One of them is an AJ because he's really the, you know, office manager. So he's an admin person trying to be a tech. But so I was asking something and he said, he goes, yeah, our guy doesn't even know how to create an email address. So you'll have to help them do that as well i mean these i don't know what's happening with our education when it comes to i.t but you're right a lot of techs are coming in not able to do the basics if they've got a troubleshoot they're almost like oh my god what just get a new one i mean that's literally what they're saying.

[22:47] Yeah, I mean, when I used to do interviews, at many jobs, I've been part of the interview panel. And, you know, I would be, explain the DHCP process. And you sit there and, like, they know what it is, but, you know, but they don't know the Dora process, the Discover offer.

[23:05] And they're requesting the acknowledgement, but it's, you separate yourself from everybody else when you understand how it works. And then troubleshooting becomes a lot easier because now you're just not guessing. And to what you said, Marvin, that's a lot of times I'm talking to someone who administered the environment, but they're just a go-to person. Either they got appointed or they volunteered or did it. And it's, you know, and when it comes to really complex things, especially when buying a proper laptop, I know that sounds super simple. But based on what the requirements are for that user You know, you get them the wrong laptop And they're going to have the worst experience possible And then, you know, it's going to come back to whoever's administering, You know, that environment.

[23:53] But we've had people who want to take over administration, not tech, the techiest person at the company. We want to do some stuff that I called on y'all. Can you help? I mean, I can help when you screw it up. I had one just the other day that they called saying they can print. Some days they can't print. That was the description. I'm looking at it and it printed fine. And it's like what I don't understand why anyway bottom line is the tech on site who installed it let it go to DHCP gave the printer IP address he put that IP as static, on the printer but he forgot he also said as static on some other notebook so when the notebook was there the printer couldn't print because it didn't know which IP to send it to.

[24:51] So I found like four printers after that that he did that to. All four of them said, yeah, it works sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. Simple thing, but it looks good enough. Yeah. We find that same type of a scenario, but we'll find it with, and it's just, it's right. This is all about education and learning, but we'll find that with a VPN, right? You've got a user who VPNs into work and the work is, the company has given out like a 192.168 as an IP address for the VPN and the customer has a 192 168 and then all of a sudden things stop working and you go what happened and then you look and start looking and digging in and you're like, okay the VPN and your home network are exactly the same so you got two options one probably the work's not going to work for you so now i now we're dealing with a remote user who we have to basically say here's the here's what we're going to do we need to change your home they're like but and I’m like i know i don't know how to fix that right but so let me help you remotely from you know 400 miles away work on flatlining your you know your ip address and your scope and we're going to rebuild it from scratch just so you can just you can print out the office printer, so funny part i uh i was traveling west and i went to my hotel and i couldn't vp it into my home network i said why can i not vp it in i have an obscure ip it's a different ip.

[26:18] A network, this hotel just happened to use the same subnet as I did. Where are the odds that you're using subnet? Okay. They're probably like, somebody's going to ever do this one. We're going to be so unique.

[26:35] I had a problem a few weeks ago. Again, same subnet at home and at work. So what they do is they connect the VPN and they already reach their private IP address or, yeah, private IP at work. But then we found that when they have the same subnet, I found that the VPN's pushing DNS, we'll just use the computer name and that works, right? And this wouldn't work for this one person. Talk about coincidence. her DHCP address at the office was the exact same IP address on her home computer. Yeah.

[27:18] Well, yeah. Changed her IP address, excluded it from DHCP on her home router, and it worked. But same exact IP address. That was a coincidence. But all these things that we're talking about in a business-looking environment, you have to understand how DHCP works and DNS and how to verify if it works or not. Because if not, I mean, you'll spend...

[27:46] So much time, like just going down a rabbit hole and, you know, and come to find out it's a bad A record or something or something like that. So, yeah, I mean, it's definitely a skill set that and we all go through it, like especially when we're new.

[28:00] And I've been super blessed in my whole life to have mentors who were doing it for 10 or 15 years and they were the seniors and they were like, hey, let me show you how this works. So then, but I also took advantage of the opportunity, buy him a coffee, buy him lunch, whatever the case may be. But, you know, I was trying to download what they taught me. And I try to do the same with other people. Let me tell you what I did wrong, because I don't want you to take that same wrong, you know, long path, trying to, you know, just trying to share the knowledge you're paying forward. But, you know, at the end of the day, it's going to take time. It's going to take, like, experience. Sometimes I get folks that are like, oh, I just graduated from college. And I want this position. I would say, well, especially in IT, you got to start somewhere and then work yourself out. I mean, the real day-to-day experience with dealing with clients and customers and sometimes really oddball deployment scenarios, you know, that's where you learn. And, uh...

[29:01] I think for any new tech out there, I would say, don't get your blinders on, right? Don't just automatically assume, don't make it a quick fix, right? Because it may be a super quick fix, but it may be something so obscure. But as soon as you put your blinders on and you just head down, like, that's the problem. And you spend two hours with, that's the problem. And then as soon as you step back and you go, that's not the problem, right? This is a 20-minute fix, but because you're so headstrong about that, and I don't know if that has anything to do with just our quick fix nature right now. Right back in the day, we had to do dip switches. You had to do all these things. You had to do IRQ commands with all that kind of stuff, and now everything is just plug and play, which has led to a very transactional. I want to fix something, and I want it to be very transactional and fast. And I don't know if that's necessarily a good thing. It can help the customer, right? because the customer gets stuff done quickly. But if it's outside of just the norm, then I think it can become a stumbling block.

[29:59] I agree yeah so i just had a customer who decided that they wanted wi-fi but instead of asking me, one of the users were like oh I’ve got an old wi-fi router at home let me just bring it in, and so they brought it in and they spent three days wondering why they would have intermittent connection and they brought in some old d-linked wi-fi router that was literally the same subnet also a dhcp server so it was conflicting and they couldn't figure out and when they finally called me and i went on site i took my tool connected and I’m like oh you have two dhcp servers what did you do oh we didn't do anything and I’m like yeah you did fires so uh guys i have a second surprise here and let me go ahead and bring to the stage uh she spent i believe it was, 2021 as the darling of the channel uh she is now one of the more popular repeat guests on the it business podcast uh she is don sizer with third element consulting sizer how are you guys how you.

[31:22] Good good what's going on yeah you heard us chatting just you know remembering the old days, any of those ring a bell for you know i kind of chuckled at the dip switches and the like i hate to date myself but i was kind of doing one of those yeah i remember doing that.

[31:43] People think i say something like they're like what did you say I’m like no no no this is I didn't tell you anything this is something that's legitimate it's on my grandfather's A plus my A plus test that I never have to take again, Yeah, I is. Gosh, my I don't remember who I was talking to, but they had brought up like dips, which is the other day. And I was like, man, oh, man, like I remember that and how miserable they were. And even just trying to like remember the first couple of times you put a secondary hard drive into a machine and you had to like take the little pieces off. And which way did they go this time? And the old the old rubber nightmare, the old rubber dongles. Oh, my gosh. Well, and then, I mean, you all don't have like long fingernails. Imagine trying to do it with like little fingernails. I had to go get like little pliers and stuff to pull them off. Yeah, I know. First world problems, but legitimately it was kind of a pain in the butt.

[32:41] Yeah. So you can either make it, you know, you put it on the ribbon the right way, or you could use the little rubber dongle things to do it. And then if you mess up, you're like, I don't know, it doesn't work still. I know, right? I pulled apart a little student the other day that had an actual floppy disk in it. It had the spun, the cut cable that was spun. And people, and I'm like, remember those? And some people are like, not a clue. We have one guy that works for us who was not around in, he was born after 2001. Wow. And so we'll talk about something and he goes, I don't even know what you're talking about. Like I wasn't even born yet. Sorry, my kids are still in that age range of, we had to roll down the windows. What does that mean? Exactly. That's the same type of conversation. We didn't have air conditioning. That's what that means.

[33:32] So don um this is your time here uh for those that are watching um, i put out the request that i wanted this to be a listener-driven show and uh i would give up time on the show to have other people contribute and stuff and miss sizer has something for us Are we ready for that? Yeah, you're crazy to have done this because giving me free reign on anything when I'm literally a chaos goblin is not the best idea for anybody involved. I imagine you were going to use clods in some form or fashion. You know, I actually didn't. So, well, maybe a little bit. I used to know. So I put together a sea shanty that I thought maybe everybody would enjoy going forward. So I'm going to throw that in the chat for everybody. Give me like two seconds here. I'm going to give you a link for that. And you can, you can play that as you like, enjoy it as you like. And, you know, do whatever you like to do. I just threw up the comment from Frank, remember using jumpers to set the megahertz and turbo setting display on the computer cases.

[34:51] Yeah, telling people I'm going to make your computer turbo and hitting a button is always pretty cool. Right. Well, it doesn't want to let me adjust the chat, so I'm going to throw it in here on the private chat, and I will let you post it for everybody else to enjoy. But it is a sea shanty entitled Single pane of glass So it is all about our industry Every crazy thing about our industry There is a sea shanty for So is there So it's musical? It is musical Yeah, it's full on music Alright, so let me Let me bring up the share here, Nom, nom, nom, nom.

[35:40] Single pane of glass.

[40:34] Okay, I was, so let me tell you this, Sizer, I was worried that you were going to, like, show up with, like, 10 of your pals, and you were going to, like, sing it live. That's what I was worried about. Nope. No, I do have another one, though, that's all about pillars and PowerPoints. So if we have to, we can do that. But anyway, the big part of this, though, when you when you said, hey, you come on and talk about anything you want on this thousandth episode, I was like, yeah, sure. How hard is this going to be? But, you know, I don't know that we all think about how hard it is to do something a thousand times. It's a lot, like a lot, a lot. And Marvin stuck with this thousand episodes and a thousand different conversations. and I, If you think about how often that is, I mean, I was down in Fort Lauderdale

[41:34] not too long ago, and he's like, hey, you're here. Do you want to record an episode? I'm like, yeah, sure. I'm here and might as well.

[41:42] But the opportunity that he takes every chance that he gets to actually record an episode and do the right thing for the community and be able to share and give that, it's extraordinary. Like you really think about how much time effort and energy that Marv has put into this it's a lot like i don't know that I’ve sat down and really thought about it until he asked me to do this episode so one thank you thank you for showing up thank you for doing this for all of us because i know i know you enjoy it but this is for all of us so i think the community thanks you we all thank you well i appreciate that thank you uh and I’ll be honest i don't always enjoy it.

[42:25] So i mean here's the deal so back in the day when you know the pod nuts crew was just doing stuff you know it was pretty much it was almost like a social thing where once a week you just kind of hop on what was it google hangouts or whatever and just uh record something and you know what once a week is all it was. I think when we started doing live conference events and when I started doing the live show and then we still, people wanted to do an audio show, that's when it really got to be a big thing. Cause then I was doing, you know, a minimum of two a week and on a good conference, that's, you know, 15, 20 episodes at a conference. So that's where it became a big thing, but to be honest, most of the time it's fantastic. It's great. Um, i think the biggest thing is letting people know how much time it takes before an episode to get it set up to get the guests to get the talking points uh to make new guests feel comfortable.

[43:35] And then afterwards to do the editing put it together post it and in some cases market it which i don't do uh which is why you know it's not like I’m a you know a huge content creator because I'm not trying to be. I'm trying to just do my job, give back to the community, and see how long it goes.

[43:59] Because you are a content creator. I don't think that you're consciously thinking about it, but you are. I mean, you think about the amount of content you put out even on the weeklies, at least two hours’ worth of content. It's a lot. Well, Rainey was the original content creator. Rainey, what do you think? Well, that's the thing. I didn't do any of the pre- or post-work. Because had I been required to do that, it would have never happened because I know that's more work than the show itself, than the content itself is to pre and post-production.

[44:35] Yeah, that's not my thing. That was Lalo's thing, good who's good at it. It was never my thing. I couldn't do it. Yeah, and like.

[44:45] Don was saying like it's a lot of work um again i didn't do at the skill that Marvin is doing it now um but even now for what i do for a living i have to create content and there's a lot folks just see like in this case folks just jumping on for like an interview or they may see me create a content for a course but they have no idea that took days and days of recording editing and planning and labs going wrong and then you have to deal with the audio and the video so it's a lot of work and but everything goes wrong right and you know i can't tell you how i would practice a lab it works great and they hit record and you know everything just goes wrong but that speaks a lot to you Marv and the whole crew just to do it week in and week out knowing the work that's involved in it and then the beautiful part is that sometimes a new person will find your show And then they're like, oh, it's just pretty cool. And they walk away knowing something that they did not know he or she before they started listening to the show. So again, a great job. And I follow you on social media. I see you in all the live conferences. And I'm like, that's cool. Because I also attend conferences. And I think it's cool to just go out there and talk to the people and just network. So again, great job. Yeah. And let's not forget, we should probably mention Martin O'Bando also had his own podcast called Geeksters back in the day.

[46:14] Yeah. And all the production, I got to give props to Door-to-Door Geek on that one. All the production went to Door. We just recorded Audacity on our side, handed off the door, and he did a lot of work with that. So as far as the production.

[46:26] Goes for Geeksters, he was definitely the brains behind all of that. And I don't think Geeksters would have, you know, Geeksters was very successful because of what Dora did behind the scenes and spent a lot of time behind the scenes making me sound good. He tried to make me look good, but there's some things you don't even try, but he definitely made me sound good. So, Marvin, you said we did like 80 shows at Tripon S Pro? I couldn't possibly imagine a thousand. I couldn't. So definitely congratulations on a thousand.

[47:05] The piece that gets me is that not only does he show up on the good weeks, right because everybody's got good weeks we've all got bad ones too and he still shows up on those weeks like that's the part that gets me there's plenty of times that i would have been like yeah I’m just not doing that this week I’ve got too many other things going on there's too many other things in my life but Marv keeps showing up and it's really amazing that you have the stick to it and this to it to do it especially when you know there are things that happen in everybody's life and you just either don't have the time effort or energy for it and.

[47:44] Well let me at least say this so i was going to save some of this towards the end but a lot of that has to go uh credit wise to my wife who basically lets me do this uh that's really the big thing so i don't have a lot of other family like you know most of you i don't have my own set of kids i do have a stepson doesn't live with us my mom is you know two hours away i have a sister that, you know, I try not to talk to unless I have to. So I'm kind of left to be able to do this. My office is a thousand feet from my house, so it's not a big commute thing for me. And I do it, I just fit it in as part of the schedule. And it works out really nice that the guests, you know, are able to accommodate my schedule as well. Because again, I, this is not full-time at all. I still have my service provider company that I run, my boutique MSP, and got to pay the bills. But yeah, here it is on a Sunday, and I know at some point I'm going to get a text because the lawn's got to be mowed.

[49:01] You need a zero turn mower. You just have to approve that. Say approve. You can do a threat locker request. Oh, yeah. Approve. Go ahead and mow. I would think with all the automation these days, you would just have automated by now. So I do, I, I'll be honest. I did look at the, uh, robot mower one time. The Yervo? Or did you look at one of the other ones? I forget which one it was. But the problem is, is our yard is not, it's not like continuous to where the mower can just go and do both the front yard and the backyard around the pool, around the garden beds. it's too much work. So I have to watch it, move it. I'm like, you know what? I might as well just mow. It just takes a shortcut through your rose bushes. It's all right. Yeah. Hit it out of the pool once in a while. I'm just like, right? That's what I'm thinking. It's just going to take a shortcut through the pool. Yeah. Siri, stop the motor. Siri, stop the motor. My phone just kicked on.

[50:14] Yeah, I don't have any automation at the house. Not going to do it. Now with AI, tag into it? No, not a chance. Oh, I don't know. The vacuum is amazing. I don't know that I could function without the robot vacuum.

[50:34] And mop actually rainy you don't need a vacuum anymore because you got rid of all your carpet because of the flood right yeah right so there's no carpet and as far as i know it's i think i have a magic lawnmower and a magic because i don't do any of that stuff when it gets done so, my wife likes to cut the grass so my wife my wife cuts the back i cut the front, so that's why i get that when she's done she lets me know and she puts the battery we've got a it's a battery powered mower so she does the back puts the battery back on charge so that you know when i get home i can finish the front yep i don't do any of that yep i come home with well no i don't come home with this cut i walk out of my office and see it's cut i don't have any windows in my You don't even hear it? Are you, are you that oblivious? No, it's terrible. I don't hear it. I see it's cut. Like, oh, look, you've got the grunts. Good job.

[51:41] I'm curious though, now that you've like touched on that, the automation piece, and some of us do have some, some minor automation at home. Like how much automation do we have as IT professionals? Is it a whole lot of like, that's nice and all, but I'm not doing that? Or is it very conditional? On maybe here, maybe there, but I really don't want anybody listening in in my household. I don't have any automation in my house. My whole entire home has automation, but it's all on a different VLAN, so it doesn't hit any of my home network stuff. So if it gets compromised, then I have fun with my light bulbs. But yeah. So when you say automation, so you said light bulbs, what else is automated?

[52:31] Everything from the garage door to my pool to door lock. I mean, everything. So when we bought our home, it was set for automation. And me being a geek, I just took advantage of it. And so, again, it's on a different VLAN. So it only has access to the internet. So it can't access any of my internal stuff. But I get the danger. I get the risk. I get the, it's, I totally get it. Some people just won't do it, which is fine.

[53:06] I've got sprinklers on automation. there you go I can do those from my app, I had I had Siri but I ripped it out sorry did I turn it on again for you Martin, no it's good because it's through the headset yeah, but nothing else no.

[53:28] Dave wants the blinds. That's his new thing. If we could just get the blinds with the remote and stuff. Those are old. Yeah. Those I like. I would like them. Is that automated blinds, or is it just a blinds with a remote control, like a TV? He wants both. Let's be fair. He wants to be able to yell at them also. Well, I think that's probably the best part of automation, is it gives you something to yell at. I could yell at my blinds. I guess that's true. yeah but then you have to like figure out what to name them right because with everything else you have to figure out what to name it like the vacuum upstairs is dirt Reynolds the one downstairs is mopped in this prime because it mops too so a friend of mine has the lawnmower it's got me named it blade runner so like you have to name things like what do you what do you name the blinds shady could be wonder oh shady it should be shady by nature, It could be, I mean, like mine are really thin, so it could be like Slim Shady. Slim Shady. I'm just saying, I got, I got, I may not be automated, but I'm there whenever I want to.

[54:41] Tom in the chat writes, Ikea used to make great powered blinds that tie into Apple HomeKit. I've got a bunch of them and they are awesome. All right, there you go. Ikea, folks. Yeah, and I, again, from a security standpoint, I totally get it. Because some of the firmware never gets updated or that code is, you know, uncompromised. I totally get where people are like, I am not doing it.

[55:05] But, you know, I tell people, I just assume that Brick Brother is always watching. In fact, they're part of our conversation right now. You know, I try to use strong passwords and MFA and everything else, but...

[55:18] I definitely get that it's scary for a lot of people yeah the blinds are pretty cool no not that i have those but i said uh i went to Amsterdam a little recently the whole hotel room was automated from the blinds to the lights and i was like i played with the blinds i just kept smashing the button man that's pretty cool also like little kids oh all right Moxies there have that done yeah all right so i need to uh do a quick bit of programming here the show was planned for 90 minutes but i have two people here that i know have to leave at uh the top of the hour so i want to go ahead and say thank you to Mr. Rainey thank you to Lalo uh martin and don if you are able to stay on i will keep the show going here we'll open it more to ask me anything type questions, but I wanted to do that acknowledgement. I have a quick little video. Well, it's not quick. It's actually a full five minutes that I was going to use as a break point here. So I wanted to say, Matt, thank you for hanging with me as long as you could when we were doing Podnutz Pro. Lalo, thank you for helping Rainey take the helms back in the day. And it turned out to be a pretty good show.

[56:41] Yeah, well, you're welcome. Glad we could pass it off on someone like you who could do so much with it. Yes, and you're doing a great job. And again...

[56:50] A lot of it is just your own time and your own sweat and tears some weeks, but you're affecting a lot of people and great lives and you're motivating people to do better and become a better version of themselves. So for that, thank you. Thank you for inviting me and you're doing great things and for a thousand more episodes, if that's what you want to do. We'll see.

[57:13] With that, let's take a break during this episode here. We've got a quick video. it's going to be a few minutes folks it's actually five minutes 43 seconds so you can grab a drink but keep the sound up so you can hear the music and some of the comments as we continue on with episode 1000.

[59:33] Hey, Uncle Marv. Diana Giles here, also known as Giles. Congratulations on your 1,000th episode. It is quite a milestone. I think we also have to acknowledge IT Nation PitchIT and their contribution to you reaching this milestone so quickly. But in thinking about what my favorite episode was or the ones that really stick out in my mind, I haven't been able to come up with one, but what I realized was the ones that I really appreciated have been the ones that I could really relate to, where you were talking about different stories and things that you're experiencing or even vendor experiences that were relatable or frustrating days, those kinds of things. And for me, those are the ones that I appreciate the most, although certainly there are a lot of other episodes that, you know, have provided a lot of great content and information.

[1:00:41] But the ones that I most appreciate are the ones that I really can relate to. And you do a great job of putting out a podcast that is relatable.

[1:00:51] And I think that's why you are so good at it. So again, congratulations and.

[1:00:57] Thank you for your contribution.

[1:02:29] You a debt of gratitude for all the time and energy that you put into this we all need you we all look to you uh for your wisdom and guidance um and for some of the fun and silly stuff even love Florida man anyway thanks for.

[1:03:19] There we are. Rainy, you're still here. All right, sir. Thank you much. We'll see ya. All right. We kick you out. And let's see. Dawn had to go. The dogs were causing a ruckus there at her place. And this was, this normally would be the after-hours part of the show. And for those that are still here, I'm actually going to put up a little note there. And I'm going to put a link in the chat that if anybody's out there and wants to join and ask a question or comment about the show, you can do that. The link is in the chat room. It should be on all three. We are streaming on YouTube, LinkedIn, and the Facebook. And it is itbusinesspodcast.com slash join. And no, you just don't come right on stage. I have to be able to look at you, see who you are, and make sure it's legit.

[1:04:26] So what was that? I snuck in. So yeah. Um, so a band. Oh, so some of those pictures, uh, what'd you think? You know, looking back. It brought back such good memories such good memories from the pod the you know the all the travels i did and traveling with door and with Cody and the one of the pictures you showed early on was us in that van it was us in uh the jeep when i went to uh or uh where did we go to we went to Canada Toronto yeah oh my gosh remember it was what 130 degrees outside, we all crammed we crammed into that van because I flew into Detroit and we got picked up and we drove and then we got stuck at the border due to time and stuff like that and it was so hot and it was so hot, yep that was an interesting tip that was so we had seen each other in Chicago at the Comp T event and when we talked about putting together this very first UnConvention, the whole idea of okay, i don't remember who came up with the idea that let's meet in Michigan and drive.

[1:05:36] Well because i was going to fly all the way there and they said no no no we should just drive and i said great and then somebody showed up i think jeff showed up with his with his jeep no it was it was uh john Dubinsky’s jeep right that was right it was john Dubinsky’s jeep and i remember sitting like i maybe i was sitting like i was so close to jeff and it was so hot that was also my first time ever having waffle house really i had never because we passed we passed into Canada and there was a waffle house there and i had never been there before so coming from the pacific northwest we don't have that yeah wow yeah waffle house is i mean it's not top tier so it's not one that i would say hey we got to go to waffle house no that is true i was traveling so i do travel now for my work and i traveled in some places i travel uh back east and it's not always i think my next trip is i need to move a company helping out move a company in Boston in September so I’ll fly over to Boston for about a week and hang out over there and we'll move some servers or get a new building.

[1:06:39] Um, but I've, I have gone to some, some waffle houses since then I've got a couple and I'm like, that was okay. And I've got a one. I'm like, you know what? That one's not bad. So it's, it's, it's been a lot of fun. All right. So you're doing a lot of traveling now. I know that we, we got on you all the time for being, you know, as far west as you could be in the U S without going to Alaska or Hawaii and getting you to come across, you know, to the East coast for stuff. I mean that's a three-hour time difference from most of the stuff that we did so i mean how rough.

[1:07:15] I well i was going to say how rough is it back then compared to today but i gotta imagine it's still kind of the same right um yeah it's you know time it's really time i realize that i am uh i don't sit in the seats very long you're like you know what i mean i think time on a plane like actually you know i rear in a seat i by the time i get to Chicago I’m like I’m done i want to be i want to be out of here so that makes it nice but usually i have a layover or something like that but uh yeah it's but i but i did it because i got to hang out with everybody i haven't been to a convention in gosh in years i mean literally it's been it's been 10 years since I’ve been to any kind of a convention and uh it's i really miss hanging out with everybody i miss that i miss that thing you know life has moved on i do different things now but i do miss that camaraderie and that fun time to just get together with everybody at conventions. One of these days I'm going to have to just show up at one and I can't write off as a work thing anymore and stuff, but it'll be a lot of fun. It'll be a lot of fun.

[1:08:17] All right uh anything back from those days when we were hanging out and stuff that you know sticks out in your memory whether it's you know i mean obviously the jeep ride but anything else from either of those UnConvention because you attended two i believe right well i said yeah but then i attended a lot of Linux fests okay as well um it's ironically my daughter married a cubs fan and so they're going back to his he's always wanted to go to Wrigley so in September i think they're going to release stadium and i remember that a that CompTIA convention that we went to and we took a test or we took a tour right and we walked by the door to their network room it was wide open yeah and i remember walking to some lady it was wearing her you know cubs gear and she works there and i said by the way you're you know you know we're all here from like we're all geeks and do networking stuff and she goes oh yeah i said your server room is wide open and she got the biggest eyes, and she ran.

[1:09:18] So that's always been like, so I get to tell my daughter, I'm like, I get that you get to see the green wall, and you get to do all that kind of stuff. Yeah, but I've seen the server. She doesn't care. You know, one of the things with going to conferences and events and stadiums and stuff, where was I? I was just at some place the other day, and there was a ruckus Wi-Fi access point just, you know, where we could see it. And I turned to the wife, I said, did you see it? She's like, oh, yeah, I noticed it. I don't know why I'm noticing stuff like that. It's so annoying. Yep. I noticed them too. I'll walk through them. I was looking at like, you know, it depends where the store. Right. And other people are looking down at things and the whole time I'm like.

[1:10:09] You know, I think it's just part of that IT thing. And I don't know if the job makes the person or the person makes the job, but I think we're just wired to look at things. We just look at things differently. You know, we look at network closets and we go, you know, or we go, hey, that's really good. Like they did a good job of that, you know, and where other people may not really care at all. You know, the access points, like access points that not only have like the name of the access point, but then the IP address of the access point. Oh, that is one of, that is a pet peeve. I don't know when it started becoming a pet peeve, but yeah, labeling your equipment out in public. It's one thing to do it in a server room where the door is closed and that way somebody walking in can look at it. But out in public? Right. Now, you may have your WAPs, VLAN, and they may be segregated and stuff like that. But you're showing your IP address. You're showing your cards right there. So yeah that's always because even if you are behind a captive portal right you may still be broadcasting something that's wrong and that makes me wonder like who put these up you know they may have they may have great intentions but the execution failed for sure yeah, so I was wondering and I, was going to ask somebody about the legality of walking around with my handheld net ally tool Cool.

[1:11:34] And just walking into some of those places and just start scanning their network getting an idea of you know their dhcp server and all of that stuff and just walking up to the inside by the way this is everything that's on your network is this what you wanted us to see but then i thought oh somebody's going to probably call the police well i think it may depend on who i mean that's one of the that's one of the how i was i got employed to work at a copy shop you know to handle their ip network it's because i walked in i was doing something i knew the co i knew the owners i scanned everything and i went by the way i can see your pos system and they went what how do we fix that I’m like here's how we're going to fix that so we segmented everything out and then it became like well if you do it for this copy you know if you do it for this shop can you do it for and then they grew into five or six shops and i did it for every single one of their shops as a I don't think you can walk into like, you know.

[1:12:32] Random stores or something. Yeah. Like, you know, just a giant store would be like, here's a problem with your security because it does tip onto that white hat, black hat thing where you're like, I'm just trying to be nice to you. But at the same time, you know, you're, you're completely, you know, you may be, you know, pointing out a flaw and they may not, they may not enjoy that very much. So we have the battle with hotels. So when I do participate with companies where, you know, we want to bring in our own Wi-Fi. Because we know that the hotel Wi-Fi sucks. And they're like no it doesn't and we're like yes it does we can show you how bad it sucks and you know part of the problem is hotels charge for that wi-fi so if you've got a big enough convention they want to they want to get thousands of dollars for that wi-fi and you know yes we can bring our own travel routers now or we can actually just piggyback off of our mobile devices.

[1:13:31] But even a lot of times those buildings they actually will squelch the cell signal which is frustrating yeah because they want you to use their wi-fi right or they content filter some you know of some sort which is which is decent right but they but sometimes you're just like okay we need to we need to be able to get to this website and now we think that's this and then when you ask them can you help us they say well no that's managed by that's managed by this company and that's some contact them some third party company you know you got an 800 number and you're lucky if you get somebody who understands what you're saying because they're like oh let me just reboot the router oh you're not comcast right um so let me ask this we didn't uh.

[1:14:24] Ask a whole lot of questions earlier because we tried to front load a lot of stuff but in terms of the work that you're doing now how much like advanced networking are you doing is it really all still the basic stuff uh is there any like you know anything new and exciting that you've been tackling recently yeah i um yes so i have been doing i still do a lot of desktop stuff because of one of my position as an account. So I'm called account manager. And so we, I kind of, I get the escalation tiers. So I'm not, I don't necessarily get all the first line calls, but I do get the escalation tiers. And sometimes that does mean going on site, looking at a printer or looking at a keyboard or something like that. But then I also have where I now am working on getting clients moved over to SharePoint or Azure. So, you know, 2016 servers are going end of life this year. And so we, I have, I have three customers that are still using 2016. And one of my customers can't move off to the 2016 because they need physical on-prem servers for what they're running. So we're going to get them new servers. But then I have another customer who decided that this was the year they're going to do QuickBooks in the cloud. And they're going to do the time management software in the cloud. And so we're going to move them 100% full to Azure. And so I get a chance to be a part of that. And some of the new guys that come in, they just know what to do with that.

[1:15:46] And it's something that I don't have a whole lot of experience with just because I can do, you know, a lot of brought it up. I can sit down and I can do a lot of the DHCP and Active Directory and group policy and get all that kind of stuff done. And it doesn't correlate for them, but they can do the Azure. And I see the similarities, right? They do mesh and I see that. But it's something that it's like, I don't, I like to be able to tangibly touch things. And I think that's just because I'm an old man. I just like to tangibly touch things and make sure that it's working well, then putting everything up in the cloud. And I know that's not feasible. So I'm learning to take that on and to learning those new skill sets for me. Well, I think one of the things you just mentioned, going to the cloud doesn't mean Abandoning the local network. You know, you've still got to have something on site that is, you know, handing out IP addresses. You've still got to have something on site that is segregating devices. So if you've got a decent firewall to do all that, yes.

[1:16:46] I have a situation where we're, you know, most of my law firms are still terrestrial. So I've got on-prem servers for them, but I have an adjacent legal company that they want to be in the cloud. So we have a desktop that they share a database from that we're looking at moving that into a cloud infrastructure.

[1:17:07] But from the meantime uh one two three of them still have to VPN into the office in order to work with that particular program so we've got a you know their office is here in fort Lauderdale there's a girl in Georgia a girl in Venezuela and a girl in Ocala Florida it's about three hours away so they actually remote into a machine and one of the managers we got her a new computer we did it completely azure um but then i realized we use true grid for secure remote access, which is still rdp but it's just a reverse proxy stuff blah blah blah but for some we couldn't rdp into that station because it was an azure state machine it was one of those things where there's still scenarios where going to the cloud hinders the local network so i couldn't do a full, joining of her machine to Azure. So we did a registration. So she still has her stuff. We just, you know, did a register and all her stuff follows her profile, but the machine itself is not full Azure AD. Yeah. So.

[1:18:21] Yeah, I'll have some that are just 100%. I don't really do the whole, I don't do the hybrid thing. I think if you have a server on site, we'll just leave everything on-prem, right? We'll just do everything on-prem. You'll already PN or you'll use VPN, whatever through the Sonic wall or something like that, right? But if you're Azure, we're going to do everything Azure. And so working a hybrid model right now, I mean, you're talking, these are clients with five, six computers. So they're not huge. These are not my giant big ones because a lot of times they also need on-prem because they're doing CAD and they're doing SOLIDWORKS and they're designing tools and stuff for their products. And that all requires a lot of horsepower on site. Or we're working with their parent company because we're contracted IT support for them locally. We're working with their parent company because then they've got a whole setup in another company or in another state and stuff like that.

[1:19:18] So I had an AutoCAD company, well, engineering company, reach out to me a while back and they wanted to go cloud between, they had an office here in the Lauderdale area and then one in Jacksonville and they wanted to cloud share all their stuff.

[1:19:38] And now this was a couple years ago so it's even today i probably would still not entertain it because I’m like okay you can't work with those files from the cloud direct you're going to have to sync them and just know that the syncing you know while you can cache some of that stuff, you know once you do the changes and they've got to sync up and then the person in Jacksonville i said, it's going to be pricey. And they were still on broadband internet.

[1:20:09] Which you know wasn't great because they were on i think it was a 130 connections 100 down 30 up and i said that's not enough you've got to go fiber if you want to do this because you've got to you've got to transfer those files fast yeah and i think people still don't realize how much, of a hindrance going full cloud is in certain scenarios because they had i mean some of those files were you know hundreds of gigs in size right well not only that but then you end up running into this issue where right it's a cached issue and so now you're like how my computer ran out of hard drive space well all these cache things so you clear up the cache and they're like where's my files well to clear up hard drive space we had to clear up your cache and now the files don't live like in SharePoint right they're not synced locally so now you play this game of like you're always doing a shell game but trying to do you know it's computer speed you're like well, I don't want a fast, I don't want a thick, you know, I don't want a Dell Precision, though they're not Dell, but like a Dell Pro Max, right? I don't want that. I want it. I want a thin computer that works like a desktop. I'm like, well, you got to, you know, where's your trade, where's your trade off going to, where's your trade off going to be? So we proposed to them a Synology in each location where they would sync and do the snapshot syncing. So that way they could work locally, but they would sync. And then we would use the Synology I don't know.

[1:21:35] We wouldn't use the drive we would just do the straight sync between the NASAs but i still told him i said you still need a faster internet to do that syncing so they didn't bite so i didn't do it, but i mean yeah you can you can you can do things fast but you can't you know your bottleneck will always be your isp yeah all right yeah for sure um is there anybody from the old community that you're keeping in touch with that you know sad to say I’m not no i know that that is that is definitely that's definitely all in me and it has nothing to do with anybody else i just i got a little burnt out not from the community i got a burnt out in tech for a long time there and then i think my hours right now are different um you know life changes um.

[1:22:26] Both my kids, today we're celebrating, after we're done here, we're celebrating my son's 26th birthday today. I have a two and a half year old grandson. My wife and I are celebrating 30 years. Congrats. My wife and I are celebrating 30 years in November. I turned 50 last month. My daughter graduated college and she's now working and the husband. And so we've got everybody downstairs. And so I think life just moves on. And it's not because I don't want to talk to Tim and Mitch and Cody and Dor and Jonathan and Nadeau and all of these people that I have these great fond memories to, I think life moved on and it definitely is something that I'm going to have to change. It's definitely a priority that I'm going to need to do and reach back out to them. And I would love to talk with them. So if they are hearing this, I love you guys and I miss you. And I'd love to reach back out to you and talk to you guys because I do miss that.

[1:23:14] Everybody who I've met over the years through Podnutz has been, Podnutz brought just a huge, I met so many great people through Podnutz, not only just people who were podcasters within the pod nuts community but at all those conventions and you had asked me about those pictures earlier they're brought all these faces just pop back into my into my memory about all these wonderful people that that i met and saw and i would go to conventions and we'd sit down and talk and laugh and have a beer together and um it really holds a special place in my heart um for the pod nuts community and i think it's awesome that you're taking this you know you're continuing this, this legacy on because it's such a, it's such a wonderful thing. And, and thank you for, you know, I'm not leaving yet, but I just wanted to thank you for reaching, reaching back out and saying, Hey, we'd love to have you back on the show because it's, uh, yeah, it's a special time in my life that held, that holds a special place in my heart. And, um, I, I truly, I truly really enjoyed meeting everybody throughout the whole, throughout the years. Well, it was something that, you know, So when I did the 300 celebration, for some reason, I thought, you know, I made it to 300. I don't know if I'll make it to five.

[1:24:27] And then when it got close to five then it felt weird I’m like i don't really want to celebrate 500 and uh when i got to this year so this technically is the 10th year that I’ve been hosting the shows we started October 2016 and i thought you know what I’ll just plan something in October and we'll make it like the 10-year anniversary thing but then as i got close to a thousand and i talked to other podcasters outside of the i.t space and all of them were talking about you know this mythical thousand episode number and some of them are you know they're still in the you know hundreds to two hundreds i think there's one uh that's in the 300 range but you know.

[1:25:17] So my show, Mike, uh, tech show, Mike Smith, uh, he's coming up on a thousand. Uh, there's a gentleman that I, uh, have talked with, uh, Jim Collison. He runs a show called, uh, home gadget geeks. Uh, he's in the 900s this year. And so the other podcasters out in the other space, when we're talking, you know, like true crime and health and all of those things, they're the ones that are like, oh my God, you're, you're coming up to a thousand shows. That must be huge. You gotta throw a big party I’m like no but I’ll do a special show I’ll invite people back um especially because i mean it wasn't my show to be honest you know when it started out and that's why i wanted to i reached out to Cherubino by the way really yeah crickets come on um but i did that but I reached out to door to do a show with him, uh, earlier this year. Uh, I'm reaching out to just, you know, anybody from that time period to say, Hey, I want to go back and recognize where it all started. Um, which for me, but I actually went back and I looked 2013 is when I first came across the pod nuts network.

[1:26:35] Let me rephrase that. I think I came upon it in 2012, but I was like, this podcasting thing sounds stupid. And I mean, it was touched on earlier that this was, you know, we've, you know, a thousand is a lot because as you go back,

[1:26:50] even 2016, right, 10 years, this was, the whole podcasting thing had just started to take off. And it was you know you had just mentioned it that's kind of dumb that's you know that's not going to kick on and here you are you're one of the people now who are the OG podcasters right who have reached a thousand years across all these platforms you're talking to all these podcasts whether it's health or like you said health or true crime or not just not just computers but across all different platforms thousands is a great milestone and i if i was wearing a hat i tip it to you because that's that is such a great thing that you've been doing and keeping up with it and it has you know not let you down you will always have something to talk about yes always a story for sure yeah that you know true crime health those things like that you're always somebody somebody's always going to need something yeah all right so let me do this let me take a couple minutes here we're coming up to 90 minutes and i want to do uh some very special shout outs and this show.

[1:27:52] Normally on the live show, I would have a sponsor, but this show I did specifically separate because I didn't want to recognize just current sponsors. To be honest, this journey simply would not have been possible if it wasn't for support. I mentioned earlier of my wife who allows me to do this and take away valuable family time, but also with the support of people who believed in what we were doing in the community aspect, the sharing aspect. But also because of what I've done with the show in terms of traveling and the equipment and stuff, uh, I've asked for, you know, people to sponsor the show and, uh, both past and present. I want to take time to recognize now, uh, for people that have stayed with me, a special shout out, first of all, to NetAlly.

[1:28:43] Uh, NetAlly was the first big sponsor of the show. They, I call them the legacy sponsor because they have been with me not since the beginning, but early on in the process. And providing me the platform to share their handheld tools has been fantastic. And I appreciate that. And then our live stream partners, ThreatLocker, which is the current partner now, SuperOps, who was the previous live stream partner, helping me to cover the cost of streaming because it's not cheap to do streaming well. So I appreciate that. All of our other sponsors, I'm just going to list them off here. Current sponsors, OneStream, TruGrid, sponsors in past, you know, LionGuard, Rythmz, DesignerReady, Computers Done Right, Thread, Syncro, Instant Housecall, my very first monetary sponsor, AppRiver. Thank you guys very much for, you know, the role that you guys played in helping me do this i also want to thank you.

[1:29:49] Uh to people that have given individually and whether that's one time or monthly uh that is appreciated as well uh the people that have done it uh continuously over the years Tom Bull, Jason Miller, Jason Percival, Clark Stockdale Israel stern Ramey Bell, Kyle Kenyon, Jared Grant and Rick Hollasy uh thank you for stepping up personally because again we are doing a show that is trying to help you know other it business owners and you know we're all trying to just do a little bit better so your support means more to me than just dollars it represents a belief in what the it business podcast you know has as a mission uh and our message to you know help everybody do it better, stronger, faster.

[1:30:42] And of course, you know, if you haven't contributed, some of you have contributed by just simply purchasing stuff on Amazon and using my link. Uh, I can't thank you personally because I don't know who purchases what, but that adds up over time. Some of you have purchased, you know, both business items, personal items. I appreciate that. Uh, I would encourage everybody, if you don't want to, you know, do a monthly contribution or something like that, just do the Amazon. It's no difference to you in terms of price. Uh, you just have a different starting page and a present, uh, percentage comes back to the show. But then of course, every listener, every supporter, friend of the show, guest of the show, uh, I don't want to forget that it takes.

[1:31:31] Everybody being willing to say yes to whether that's just hanging on the show, uh, whether it's, you know, something you're promoting as a vendor, uh, a topic that's covering, whether it's a bad topic in the channel, uh, a great topic at the channel or a friend that I've reached out to and said, Hey, I want to talk about this. Can you come on?

[1:31:52] Uh, and that goes back to the pod nuts pros day, um, pod nuts pro days. You guys have helped shape this show uh a thousand episodes 10 years in and as somebody said maybe a thousand more we'll see what happens so thank you

[1:32:09] guys very much Obando thank you very much for uh.

[1:32:12] Thank you for staying on uh any last words you want to say to anybody out there don't forget to be gruntled there it is the Geeksters code oh fantastic thank you sir well that's going to do it folks for this special 1000th episode thank you very much for tuning in i see people are still watching uh and if you catch this after the fact uh just drop a note in there um and give me your thoughts but we'll be back as per usual we got another live show this upcoming Wednesday got some audios coming out and got some product demos uh including the fluke link iq duo that I’m going to be talking about and seeing how it goes but for now uh actually it's raining so i don't have to go mow the lawn but i probably still do have to go home so that's going to do it folks thank you very much we'll see you next time Holla.