Uncle Marv's IT Business Podcast (Products, stories, and tips for the MSP and IT Professional)
Uncle Marv's IT Business Podcast (Products, stories, and ti…
The IT Business Podcast is a show for MSPs (Managed Service Providers) and IT Professionals providing business network support and managed services. Each episode delivers products, stories, and tips that help the MSP and IT Pro run the business better, smarter, and faster, covering everything from pricing and packaging to operations, tools, and service delivery. You’ll hear candid conversations with working MSP owners, system admins, vendors, and industry leaders who share what’s actually working in the field, including hard lessons, success stories, and the occasional “what not to do.” Topics regularly include managed services best practices, cybersecurity and compliance, Microsoft 365 and cloud, automation and documentation, vendor selection and stack building, plus the day-to-day realities of running a modern IT business. Hosted by longtime IT business owner and podcaster Marvin “Uncle Marv” Bee, the show blends real talk, practical advice, and a lighthearted tone so the MSP and IT Pro behind the network can learn, laugh, and get better every week.
Aug. 20, 2026

Hope Is Not a Sales Strategy (EP 1074)

Hope Is Not a Sales Strategy (EP 1074)
Uncle Marv's IT Business Podcast (Products, stories, and tips for the MSP and IT Professional)
Hope Is Not a Sales Strategy (EP 1074)

Chris Miller’s path from sales outsider to MSP co-owner is a real reminder that growth takes more than referrals and good intentions. We talk about building a repeatable sales process, getting clear on your ideal customer, and learning enough about each other’s worlds for sales and technical teams to work together.

Chris Miller did not come into the MSP industry as a lifelong technologist. He came from telecom sales, thought he knew computers because he knew how to use them, and then got a quick education when he had to explain firewalls, switches, and backups to business owners. What I appreciated about Chris is that he did not pretend to know what he did not know. He sat down with an engineer, asked questions, learned the environment piece by piece, and then figured out how to translate technology into business value.

We also get practical about MSP growth. Chris helped grow one MSP from about $800,000 to $4 million, then joined ATB Technologies in 2018 when it was around $2 million and helped it reach $10 million, all organically. The conversation comes back to having a repeatable sales process, defining an ideal client profile, and recognizing that the strategy needed at $1 million is not necessarily the one needed at $10 million. Chris also shares why culture, customer relationships, and the willingness to learn outside your natural skill set matter just as much as the numbers on a revenue chart.

=== Chapters

  • 00:22 Meet Chris Miller of ATB Technologies
  • 01:32 From Telecom Sales to the MSP Industry
  • 05:21 ATB Technologies’ Growth From $2M to $10M
  • 07:52 Why MSP Sales Requires Technical Understanding
  • 09:48 Building a Repeatable MSP Sales Process
  • 12:01 Managed Services, Cybersecurity, and AI Strategy
  • 13:35 Breaking Through MSP Growth Plateaus With ICP
  • 18:40 Leadership Structure and Scaling Beyond $10M
  • 22:08 Organic Growth, Client Expansion, and Culture

=== Guest: Christopher Miller, ATB Technologies

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Co-Owner, Chief Revenue Officer

As Co-Owner and Chief Revenue Officer at ATB Technologies, Chris Miller helps businesses align their technology with their long-term goals for success. With more than 20 years of experience in the tech world, Chris partners with companies and nonprofits throughout St. Louis and the Midwest to build IT strategies that are secure, scalable, and designed to support growth.

Chris was recognized with a St. Louis Titan 100 Award which honors the region’s top business leaders who demonstrate exceptional leadership, vision, and passion. He was also a finalist for the MSP Titans of Industry Award for Community Impact.

With a passion for helping businesses succeed and a heart for volunteering for youth causes, Chris has worked side-by-side with his nonprofit customers over the years to win hundreds of thousands of dollars in grant money to aid in their adoption of technology. He also serves on the board for several nonprofit organizations. 

Chris attended Illinois College before earning a master's degree in international business with an emphasis in nonprofit management from Webster University.

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